PALMER TOWNSHIP BOARD OF SUPERVISORS

GENERAL BUSINESS MEETING

FEBRUARY 19, 2007

 

      A general business meeting of the Palmer Township Board of Supervisors was held on Monday, February 19, 2007 at 7:00 p.m. in the Community Room of the Palmer Library with four Supervisors in attendance.  Robert Lammi was absent.  Also in attendance were the Township Manager, Director of Public Services, Police Chief, Planning Director and the Township Solicitor.  Colver convened the meeting and led those present in the Pledge to the Flag. 

     

2.   APPROVAL OF DISBURSEMENT OF FUNDS – FEBRUARY 19, 2007

 

      INFORMATION

 

      The report will be provided at the meeting.

 

      DISCUSSION

 

      On motion by Smith, seconded by Panella, and agreed by all, the Board approved the disbursement of funds for February 19, 2007.

 

3.      APPROVAL OF MINUTES – FEBRUARY 5, 2007

 

      DISCUSSION

 

Bruno noted to remove the word “out” from the fifth line in the last paragraph on page three.

 

On motion by Panella, seconded by Smith, and agreed by all, the Board approved the minutes of February 5, 2007 after the correction was made.

     

4.   DISCUSSION OF WASTE HAULING BIDS

 

      INFORMATION       

     

      The Board will discuss different options regarding the waste hauling bids.

 

      DISCUSSION

 

      Colver said at the last meeting this was discussed and Colver reviewed the three options that were bid.  Colver said the bids have been opened and the Environmental Steering Committee (ESC) made their recommendation to the Board of Supervisors.  Colver said the Board has received emails and phone calls from residents and said this Board is interested in doing what is best for the township.  Colver said tonight he would like to discuss questions or concerns from Board members and may ask representatives of haulers that are in attendance for clarification on any questions.  Colver said if there is any action taken tonight the public will be allowed to comment.

 

      Colver said questions that he would like to address are the issues regarding limited pickup versus unlimited.  Colver said we know the recycling numbers are going down in the township and that is an issue.  Smith said the hardest decision for this Board is the cost for the unlimited option versus the cost for the toter option which is very close.  Smith said he feels if we go with the toter program, where we could add one bulk item per week, the numbers may exceed the unlimited bid.  Smith said he has issues, questions, and concerns with both options.  Smith said he is concerned with how the trash tonnage is growing and recycling is declining.  Smith said with the toter option residents will be forced to pay more attention to what they put in their toter.  Smith said he doesn’t like having to make a decision to go with the toter and force it on the residents.  Smith said another concern of his is we may end up finding trash thrown around the township if we go with the toter program.  Colver said he agrees with what Supervisor Smith says and he’s been trying to list the pros and cons for each option.

 

      Colver said awhile back someone mentioned if they could put one bulk item out with the toter option, it may work.  Smith said for the people who want to purchase a second toter why would it cost the same amount for pickup as a resident with one toter.  Colver said in our original bid we didn’t include a bulk item in the toter option.  Colver said how can we get to a happy medium.  Colver said we also bid for a five year contract with a one year option.  Panella said in a five year period the landfill situation can change. 

 

Colver asked the solicitor about the process if they choose to change some options and re-bid.  Bruno said you mentioned issues regarding what’s best for the residents.  On the other side, you are talking about some different pricing options too.  Bruno said some may say a three year term may result in better pricing and that is one consideration.  Bruno said we asked in the initial bid for 100% of the total contract cost to be bonded.  Bruno said this requirement could affect the cost of bids too.  Bruno said if you choose to re-bid you may get a better result if you lower the bond requirement.  Bruno said you have to look at the affects of each method.  Bruno said if you want to include one bulk item with the toter option it would need to be re-bid.  Bruno said the practical problem is in the timing.  Bruno said he feels re-bidding could be accomplished.  However if we choose an option that requires a longer period of implementation, we may need to ask for an extension from our current contractor.

 

      Mitchell said he feels we should add a bulk item to the toter option, throw out the second option, and re-bid option three.  The Board agreed to eliminate option two.  Colver said why couldn’t we bid for a three year contract plus one year option and a five year contract plus one year option.  Bruno said he wouldn’t recommend a one year bond but you can decide on a percentage no less than 20%.  Anckaitis said if the Board decided on a 20 or 30% bond it would be that percent of the entire cost of the five year contract.  Bruno said that is correct.  Bruno said he checked documentation and you could actually go as low as 10%, but he wouldn’t recommend that.

 

      Smith said the numbers show a substantial increase and he feels we owe it to the residents to look at ways to minimize the increase.  Bruno said if you believe a re-bid can benefit the residents and still provide services closer to what the residents are getting now, it can be re-bid.

 

      Colver reviewed the items he wrote down; adjusting the bonding percentage of the total contract; getting numbers for a three plus one contract in addition to a five plus one; the toter option has to include one bulk item a week; and the need to get the second toter purchase pricing.  Panella said the seniors should be allowed to get a smaller toter and shouldn’t have to pay the same amount as a 96 gallon toter.  Bruno said the first bid allowed for a 32 gallon toter for residents but they would pay the same as the 96 gallon toter.  Tom Ganssle, Co-chair of the Environmental Steering Committee, said the truck still has to get there and pick up the trash, so they all pay the same price.  Colver said the truck, insurance, and liability is still the same whether the toter is 96 or 32 gallons.  Bruno said we can have an additional toter added to the price list.  Rob Reese, Co-Chair of the ESC said the percentage of people that purchase the second toter is very small.  Colver asked for a timeline if we re-bid.  Bruno said if you believe it is in the best interest of the township to re-bid, first you would have to reject all bids and list the reasons for rejecting the bids.  Bruno said we would want to re-advertise as soon as possible.  We would advertise on two different occasions, at intervals not less than three days or once a week for two successive weeks.  This gets us into early March for bid opening.  Bruno said we’ll have to allow for less than 60 days for the bidders to supply their bids.  Bruno said he didn’t feel a pre-bid conference would be needed this time around since bidders are already aware of what the township is looking for.  Bruno said it’s a tight schedule but he feels it can be done.

 

      Mitchell suggested we get feedback from residents that are in attendance tonight.  Colver said he will accept questions or comments on waste hauling and to please keep it to five minutes per person.

 

      Al DeGennaro, Corporate Counsel of J. P. Mascaro, said at this time he would ask the Board to think about the purpose of this process.  DeGennaro said bulk and additional trash won’t affect the recycling numbers.  DeGennaro said he would ask if the price is so close for unlimited versus the toter, is it really worthwhile making all these changes to re-bid.  DeGennaro said re-bidding in the past shows the new bid numbers don’t always go down.  DeGennaro said regarding the comment earlier about senior citizen pickup, residents currently who are putting out a small bag each week are paying the same as a neighbor who puts out bags and bags of trash.  That won’t change.  DeGennaro said if you want to keep it the same for residents, you have an unlimited option now.  DeGennaro said regarding bonding you want to provide your residents with the highest protection.  DeGennaro asked if the toter option is really what the community wants. 

 

      Sam Augustine, J. P. Mascaro and Sons, said the ESC had a task to determine cost versus value.  Augustine said after tonight’s discussion it is obvious you want what is best for the residents.  Other communities in the area, Upper Macungie and Plainfield Township, are right in line with your community.  Augustine said you mentioned trash going up in 2005 versus 2006.  Augustine said the numbers stated 49 pounds of trash are being generated per house in Palmer and recycling is at twelve pounds per house.  Augustine said don’t be fooled that your trash is going up, it could have been a wet summer and grass clippings could have had an affect on those numbers.  Augustine said he feels the longest contract is the best way to go and he would never recommend less than a 50% bond for a community of this size.  It will guarantee financial security.

 

      Robert Natkie, General Manager for J. P. Mascaro’s Allentown Division, said he talked with neighbors in the township and he feels his organization could provide the best service.  Natkie said he sees 20 gallon recycling containers that are overflowing in the township now.  Natkie said the toter option will restrict his family and residents like him.  Natkie said he’ll have to store garbage on his property for a later pickup with the toter system.  Natkie said you’ll also find people putting trash in the neighbor’s toter.  Natkie said he has three kids and he generates a lot of garbage.  Residents will find some way to get rid of the garbage.  Natkie said with the process now, I know I can put my trash out and it will be gone the next day.  Natkie said I don’t have to worry about purchasing stickers to put my sofa out.

 

      Harold Harrison, Woodridge Terrace, asked why go to toter versus what we have now.  Colver said there was a lot of concern about trash flying around the township and the toter system is a clean system where you don’t have trash flying around.  Plus it limits the amount of garbage put out which will lower our tonnage.  Colver said our recycling numbers have been declining and with the toter system the ESC feels people would pay more attention to what they put in the toter and the recycling numbers should increase.  Colver said we do receive grants for recycling.  Harrison asked if it would be cheaper to stay with the way it is now.  Colver explained the options and amounts of the bids.  Harrison asked what happens if your toter is stolen.  Colver said you won’t pay out of your pocket for your initial toter as it is included in the bid amount.  Colver said the hauling company would deliver a toter to your home.  Panella said each toter will have a number on it that will be registered to your home.  Harrison asked if it is stolen would he have to buy a new one.  Colver said he didn’t think anyone asked that question yet.  Colver said if it is damaged the contractor will replace it.  Colver said the toters are guaranteed for 10 years. 

 

      Charles Pantaleo, Manager at Raritan Valley Disposal, said they supply the toter system in South Whitehall Township and said they went from unlimited pickup to toters.  Pantaleo said the South Whitehall trash tonnage went down the first year by 12% and continues to decrease yearly.  Pantaleo said in Upper Macungie they had everyone initially take a 96 gallon toter and told them to try it out first.  Pantaleo said only a few residents asked to change to a different size.  Pantaleo said if you stay with the unlimited option your trash will continue to go up. 

 

      Joe Daniello, Operations Mgr, Raritan Valley, urged the Board to consider making the one year option bilateral.  Daniello said when you force the hauler to be at your mercy to extend the contract, if our landfill costs go up significantly, we have to take that into account.  Daniello said the only reason you wouldn’t go with the option year is if your hauler isn’t doing a satisfactory job.  Daniello said this way we both have to agree on it.  Daniello said the Bethlehem recycling center has a five year contract with five one year options that have to be agreed upon by both the hauler and city.  Daniello said he didn’t feel the township would need to go that far, but it is an option. 

 

      Carol Barry, 16 Mill Race Drive, said you quoted the $36 increase and asked if it included bulk items.  Colver said bulk items would be in addition to the $36.  Barry said she has four or five bulk items a year and would like to have the bulk items included.  Barry said she has two mattresses in her basement now she needs to get rid of.

 

      Walt Aicher, 3535 Glenn Avenue, thanked the Board of Supervisors and the Steering Committee for all they do.  Aicher said he believes there are better services in Palmer Township than surrounding communities and that is why he lives here.  Aicher said when he puts garbage out he wants to put it out, he doesn’t want to have to run for stickers and deal with bulk items.  Aicher said we should encourage people to use the services provided.  Aicher said we shouldn’t need to worry about bulk items sitting roadside.  Aicher said for an additional $20 he wants to be able to put 20 couches out.  Aicher said please go with the unlimited option.

 

      Robert DiNicola, 1 Tulip Court, said he played around with the numbers, and not to bore anyone, but option one is the best deal.  DiNicola said he knocked on some doors of neighbors and everyone agrees option one is the way to go.  DiNicola said option three will definitely increase bulk items thrown around the township.  DiNicola said the cost isn’t much more for option one.

 

      Elaine Arnts, 2700 John Street, said she agreed with Mr. DiNicola.  Arnts said bulk items need to be included in whatever is bid.  Arnts said she walks four or five miles a day and sees things thrown in the township that you usually don’t see by car.  Arnts said if you don’t include bulk items you will see them in more places you don’t want to see them.

 

      Ed Dean, 2310 Woodridge Terrace, asked on behalf of Mr. Harrison if a resident could get three regular cans instead of a toter.  Colver said they would need the toter.

 

      Colver introduced Tom Ganssle and Rob Reese, Co-Chairs of the Environmental Steering Committee.  Ganssle said he has been a member of the committee for eight or nine years.  Ganssle said the committee researched options for two to three years.  Ganssle said the committee’s goal was to reduce trash in the landfills and also increase recycling.  Ganssle said recycling is the law, not a choice, and it will save the township money in the long run.  Ganssle said the committee recommended the toter program to the Board of Supervisors after two years of research because of the advantages and cost reductions.  It is the wave of collection in this country.  Ganssle asked why should residents who don’t ever put bulk items out be paying for people who put them out every week.  Ganssle said the township residents have relatives and friends that bring trash to their houses on garbage day.  Ganssle said toters are cleaner, they appear nicer, and are easy to move with the large wheels.  Toters last 15 to 20 years and are guaranteed for 10 years.  Ganssle said it is also safer and cheaper for the haulers.  Ganssle said the township will have the opportunity for 90% reimbursement, through state grants, for the cost of the toters.  Ganssle said the hauling companies are ready to roll out the toter program immediately.  We need to encourage people to recycle more.  Ganssle said it was proven in South Whitehall that their garbage decreased and recycling went up because the residents pay more attention to recycling.

 

      Anckaitis said the township gets a considerable amount of money for the recycling that is collected in the township.  Anckaitis said we get over $100,000 a year in recycling grants and the more we recycle the larger that number becomes.  Ganssle said grant money received by Palmer over the years, total over one million dollars thanks to our residents.  Colver said the amount listed in the bid to purchase the toters was $369,000.

 

      Colver brought it back to the Board to decide if the consensus was re-bid or to make a decision on the existing bids.  Smith said he would like to see the numbers for the toter program with it including one bulk item a week.  Mitchell and Panella agreed.  Colver said in addition to that he would like to change the bonding requirements.  The Board agreed to re-bid options one and three.  Panella asked if we end up allowing one bulk item, a toter, and a recycle can, will there be three trucks.  Colver said the toter and bulk item would go in the same truck.  Colver said it will be two trucks on your street no matter what option we choose.       Bruno said if the consensus is to re-bid we will need a motion to reject all bids.

 

      On motion by Smith, seconded by Panella, and agreed by all, the Board made a motion to reject all bids to allow for the best interests of the township to be served by providing for the opportunity to review options which provide better service with the toter option, the potential to lower costs to township residents on all options, and to better evaluate all options in a more educated manner in light of all issues discussed.

  

      Bruno said he will attempt to prepare a bid package with help from the ESC and will address all concerns the Board raised tonight.  We will re-bid options one and three, the unlimited and the toter.  Bruno said the toter option will have one bulk item per week included as part of that option.  Bruno confirmed that the Board wanted each option bid as a three year contract and five year contract with one year option for both.  Bruno asked if the Board wanted the bilateral option included.  The Board said yes.  Bruno asked if they wanted to lower the performance bond requirement that was previously stated at 100%.  Colver said he feels comfortable with 50%.  The Board agreed to go with a 50% bond requirement.  Bruno said there will be four different things on a bid pricing form and an alternative pricing sheet will also be included.  Bruno stated no motion was required for re-bidding.  Bruno said he will keep the Township Manager posted on the status of preparing the bids and he would bring it to the next Tuesday night meeting for approval to advertise.

     

5.   AUDITOR RESOLUTION

 

      INFORMATION       

     

      The Board needs to approve/disapprove appointing Palmer and Company as the township auditor for the 2006 records.

 

      DICUSSION

 

On motion by Mitchell, seconded by Panella, and agreed by all, the Board approved the auditor resolution.

 

6.   TRAFFIC SIGNAL RESOLUTION

 

      INFORMATION       

     

      The Board needs to approve/disapprove the traffic signal resolution for Main Street (S.R. 1002) and Van Buren Road (T-516).

 

      DISCUSSION

 

      On motion by Panella, seconded by Smith, and agreed by all, the Board approved the traffic signal resolution. 

 

7.  PUBLIC COMMENT

 

      Robert Gumlock, 109 Berks Street, asked how the Board and township feels with the progress in the Highland Park project.  Colver said the Township Engineer will update us next week at our meeting.  Colver said we’re still charging on with the plan for the Freemansburg Avenue traffic light.  Gumlock asked if the property issues were resolved.  Adams said we’re making progress with just a few outstanding issues.

     

8.   REPORTS

     

Solicitor

·        Bruno had an extension agreement for the Villages of Mill Race, Phase 3, requesting an extension of time until June 30, 2007 to complete public improvements.  On motion by Mitchell, seconded by Smith, and agreed by all, the board approved the extension request.

·        Bruno had a request from the Crossroad of Nazareth LLC, for the office building on Route 248, requesting a 90-day extension of time.  On motion by Smith, seconded by Panella, and agreed by all, the Board approved the extension request.

·        Bruno had a mutual aid agreement for the public works department between the City of Easton and Palmer Township.  Bruno said the agreement will benefit the township when sharing responsibilities in the event of an emergency.  Bruno said he will get a copy to the Board for approval at the next meeting. 

 

      Township Manager

·        Anckaitis said he received a response from Conrad Siegel regarding the amount of the MMO increase due to the annual cost of living increase for retirees.  Anckaitis said the amount is $3,900.  Anckaitis said the second portion of the letter covers the cost impact for increasing the service increment to the maximum amount permitted by Act 89 for police retirees.  Anckaitis said currently the plan allows a maximum increase of $100 per month and Act 89 allows the maximum service increment to increase to $500 per month.  Anckaitis said the impact to the MMO for this change would be $22,500.  Anckaitis said he will supply a copy of the letter to the Board and place it on next weeks agenda. 

·        One personnel item for executive session.

     

On motion by Panella, seconded by Smith, and agreed by all, the meeting was adjourned at 8:55 p.m. with one personnel item for executive session.

 

Respectfully submitted,

 

 

 

Robert G. Anckaitis

Township Manager