PALMER TOWNSHIP BOARD OF SUPERVISORS
SPECIAL BUSINESS MEETING
MARCH 12, 2007
A special business meeting of the Palmer Township Board of Supervisors was held on Monday, March 12, 2007 at 7:00 p.m. in the Community Room of the Palmer Library with four Supervisors in attendance. Ann-Marie Panella and the Township Manager were absent. Colver convened the meeting and led those present in the Pledge to the Flag.
Colver said this is a special meeting that was advertised. We will be hearing presentations from three different fund account managers regarding management of the township police pension fund. Colver said this is strictly an informational meeting and no decision will be made tonight.
2. RYAN BECK POLICE
PENSION FUND PRESENTATION
INFORMATION
Ryan Beck will make a presentation regarding management of the township police pension fund.
DISCUSSION
Dan
Rome, Stephen Greenhut, Joe Battipaglia, and Jim
Woodley were in attendance from Ryan Beck Company. Rohm introduced himself and said he has 23
years in the business and is retired from the Navy. Greenhut presented a packet of information to
the Board. Greenhut said they appreciate
the opportunity to present this evening.
Greenhut reviewed similarities and differences they offer versus the
current township program. Greenhut
reviewed their quarterly fee structure and the portfolio structure. Greenhut outlined the steps they would take
with the township to set up and monitor the township portfolio. Greenhut said
Colver
asked if it’s a yearly contract.
Greenhut said the agreement is not time certain. You have the ability to terminate at any time. Colver asked if
fees are looked at quarterly or annually.
Greenhut said you have the ability to negotiate the fee. Colver asked if Mr. Rome would be the
township representative. Greenhut said
yes. Colver asked what returns are you currently seeing with your clients. Greenhut said we strive for above average
returns and look for managers that are in the top level that provide
consistency and out perform the industry benchmark. Smith asked over the past five years how do
you determine your fees for the next year.
Are they the same each year? Greenhut
said the fees are a percentage of the assets and there is a tiered pricing
structure with break points. Lammi asked
when looking for managers how quickly will you take action to move a manager
out and look for a new manager. Greenhut
said he’s been in the business for 20 years and institutionally the window is
typically three years to be able to see a manager’s full market cycle. Greenhut said we look at it on a quarterly
basis. If they are underperforming for a
nine month period we will put them on watch.
Greenhut said 12 to18 months is typically when we may terminate the
relationship.
3. SMITH
BARNEY
POLICE PENSION FUND PRESENTATION
INFORMATION
Smith
Barney will make a presentation regarding management of the township police
pension fund.
DISCUSSION
Gary
Guzzi was in attendance from the
Mitchell
asked if we decide to make a change is there a cost to us because you have to
sell what we have and put it into new funds.
Englebert gave an example of a previous client and said there isn’t an
additional cost because there are no commissions for bonds being sold. I would be hard pressed to say it would cost
you anything to change. Colver asked
when they review fees. Englebert said
they review it yearly. Lammi said if we
have six million in a fund and the fund doesn’t do to well and we have to
contribute, do you get a fee off of the contribution. Englebert said that is correct with any
investment group. Lammi asked how
quickly do you make a decision to fire or retain a fund manager based on performance. Englebert said it used to be a market cycle,
two to three years, but now it is much quicker.
Englebert said he typically would say one year now. Lammi asked who would be the quarterly
representative at our meetings.
Englebert said he and Mr. Glovas.
Colver asked what kind of returns are you seeing with your current
clients. Englebert said their best last
year was 13.5% and there worst was at 8%.
Englebert said each client is different regarding their risk factors in
investing. Our worst last year is not as
aggressive and did not take all of our recommendations. Englebert said we tend to be a bit more
conservative with a pension fund. Lammi
said your list of clients don’t include any
4.
INFORMATION
Celeste
Rau will explain the notice to the Board.
DISCUSSION
Celeste Rau said her office is
in the
5.
INFORMATION
Fulton
Financial will make a presentation regarding management of the township police
pension fund.
DISCUSSION
Rau said she’s been in the
Valley for seven years. Rau said Fulton
Financial is associated with Lafayette Ambassador Bank and said
Rau introduced Elizabeth Peris from the
Fulton Financial office in
Colver asked about the
fees. Rau said they are fee based and
reviewed the schedule. Rau said she
heard other presenters talk about the cost of mutual funds. Rau reviewed the mutual funds they purchase
and stated the cost is very minimal. Rau
said they feel they have done a good job managing the township funds. Colver said now that we are talking to our current
consultant can you break down some of the fees and charges. Rau said an investment manager will charge a
market base fee. Rau said Smith Barney
said they would charge 75% in a year’s time.
Rau said you take the seven million dollars times the 75%. Rau said in hearing the other proposals she
feels you are getting an apples to apples comparison. Rau broke down the fee structure in their
proposal. Rau said the most efficient
way to get exposure in these parts of the market is through mutual funds. Lammi asked about replacement of fund
managers and asked how you handle terminating a manager when it is a subsidiary
of your company. Peris said we put them
on watch as we would anyone else. Lammi
asked if the senior management backed them on that decision. Peris said they have backed us this far. Lammi asked who makes the decision for a
change in allocation. Peris said they
have one person that is dedicated to that but we have others who assist and we also
have software tools. Rau said regarding
the township allocation - the township committee, actuary, and Fulton make the
decision. Smith said if we want to do
better than what you’re projecting as a return would you come to us with a
recommendation of where we should be investing to get better results. Peris reviewed a chart that was in their
packet with the Board.
6. PUBLIC
COMMENT
None
7. REPORTS
Supervisors
·
Colver asked the Board for their opinion on the
Public Services Directors letter regarding closing
·
Colver had a temporary construction easement for
Helen Stelzman of
On motion by Smith, seconded by Lammi, and agreed by all, the meeting was adjourned at 9:15 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Robert G. Anckaitis
Township Manager