PALMER
TOWNSHIP PLANNING COMMISSION
APRIL 12, 2005
The Palmer Township Planning Commission
meeting was held on Tuesday, April 12,
2005 at 7:00 p.m. with
the following in attendance. Young,
Grandinetti, Rickert, Wilkins and Rizzolino.
Also present were Planning Director Amanda Jensen, Township Engineer
Brian Dillman, Solicitor Charles Bruno and Supervisor Liaison Robert
Lammi. Chairman Young convened the
meeting by leading those present in the Pledge to the Flag.
MINUTES OF THE FEBRUARY MEETING – Minutes
of the meeting were approved as written on motion by Grandinetti, seconded by
Rickert, and agreed by all.
KNOB HILL – Kings
Avenue/Haymont St. – Conditional Use Request – Terry
Zawarski was present with plans and sketches of the proposed condos. James Preston, Attorney for the applicant was
also present and reviewed the sections of the Ordinance that pertains to a requested
additional 10 feet in height from 35 to 45.
The ordinance now allows 35 ft. in height. Zawarski highlighted the plan
noting that approval has already been given for this gated community. He also showed a rendering of other condos in
the township which would be a close sketch of the proposed. He gave a detail of the architecture and
noted there will not be any living area in the attic, it is just decorative. There will be three bedrooms, a living room, dining
room, kitchen, 2 car garage, a family room as well as an owner’s area that
includes master bedroom, bathroom and walk-in closets. The grading makes the grounds different
levels throughout the development. The maximum
of a proposed building would be 41 feet high which is defined in the Zoning
Ordinance. Rickert asked what it would
look like without the additional requested 10 ft. Zawarski noted he was really only asking for
an additional 6 ft. which he pointed out on the sketch. There would not be the architectural roof, it
would be flatter, which he feels will take away from the architect of the
buildings. Without this conditional use
approval he would have to abandon the dormers, have a shallow pitched roof and
lower the proposed ceiling height. First
and second floors are elevated. Proposed
ceilings are 9 ft. but would have to remove a foot from each floor if
denied. He feels the selling price of
the condos would be in range of $275,000 due to topography build, architecture,
and design. Zawarski stated he planned
this area design as historic architect. Wilkins
noted he visited the site and noticed the topography of this area. Zawarski noted this section is a knob on a
hill, hence the name of the development.
The rear of units are a split level function and the levels can vary for
each individual unit due to the ground elevations in that area. Young asked Dillman if he had any questions
or comments and he noted it was purely a planning issue at this point. Young asked about placing garage in the rear and
Zawarski noted then they would have to develop alleys for rear alley
entrance. Young understood this and asked if there were
any comments from the audience.
Mike
Lukachek, 614 Haymont Drive
distributed pictures and information. He stated that the existing tree line will be
replaced by two of the buildings and the developer was asked at a previous
meeting if trees were going to be kept. Developer said yes, but there are no
trees left. The developer raised the elevation
10 feet and it is higher than his home. Lukachek noted they are going to put in a 4
foot buffer area. He has a 2 story
colonial home which is 28 feet tall.
Other homes in area are ranch type homes and these new proposed homes
will be very high and their back yards will be facing neighborhoods. How tall are these condos going to be when
the residents walk out their back door?
Lukachek noted that the slope very steep and elevated 10 feet to rear of
existing property. He feels the township
should protect the existing neighborhoods.
We do not live in city; we live in a small community.
James
Kenney, 2359 Lawnherst Avenue
– agrees with Mr. Lukachek and feels homes in Lawnherst will be towered
over. There will not be any privacy as
we had. Will ruin property value in the
long run. Grading run off into Lawnherst
is terrible. Ordinance says 35 feet,
keep it there.
Robert
Brown – 2220 Kings Ave. –
stated they did raise land, more that 10 feet.
This area is very apt to lightning strikes, very dangerous with
height. What happens if the gates can’t
open and there is a fire in a home, how do fire trucks get in. Tractor trailers travel down roadway, block
existing drives and mailboxes. Recommend making them less than 25 feet. Don’t need skyscrapers. Young commented that if there is a fire, the
trucks will always get in, one way or another.
George
Hemstreet – 5
Haymont St.
– who is checking on run off. Young
asked Mr. Hemstreet to talk to Jensen on this.
Hemstreet feels this project should be shut down until something is
checked out.
Salvatore
Drago – 2223 Eugene St. –
read a prepared statement citing reasons the Commission should not recommend
this. This is not Philadelphia;
we are in the middle of a small community.
Donna
Lukachek - 614 Haymont Dr.
stated the land in rear yard was elevated and reshaped. There will be very tall buildings in rear of
their back yard and feels this is uncalled for.
Carmelo
LaDuca – 2211 Eugene Ave – Asked
if the height of building is in accordance of fire code. He has concerns on this. Young noted all departments were consulted
and noted the Fire Administrator did not make any comment so there is probably
not an issue. Jensen will check with him. Lammi noted that the fire department/trucks can
reach top of buildings. If gates don’t
open, they will get there anyway. Lammi
asked that the Fire Chief be contacted before this comes before the Board of
Supervisors.
Mike
Dombroski -2215 Hackettsview Ave
– lives in a ranch house and noted that his house is now level with fire
hydrant. They are raising land
considerably.
Mike
Lukachek – stated sections of code that is relevant to this applicant. These sections were included in the packet
that he distributed to the Commission members.
Frank
Gotta - 613 Haymont Drive –
agrees with what was said in room tonight.
He asked when was this portion of the code put into effect. Bruno stated
this particular section was adopted in August of 2002. Frank asked why was this put into effect as
it is today. Bruno stated this is an unfair
question to this Commission. The Board
of Supervisors is the legislation body, they made final decision. There has to be a reason why it was put into
effect. What has changed in the last 2 ½
years to want to change the environment.
We don’t live in Philadelphia
as stated before.
Rickert
motioned to recommend against the Conditional Use application to erect
townhouses up to 45’ in height or 3.5 stories based on the following sections
not being met: 190-54F – No unusual
excellence in architectural design; 190-208D(1)– Does not conform with the spirit,
purposes, intent and all applicable requirements of this ordinance; 190-208D(4)
it is not suitable for the particular location in question; 190-208D(7) it will significantly adversely
threaten the desirable character of an existing residential area and would
affect the character of the neighborhood and abutting lots such as blocking
sunlight/casting shadows on existing homes; 190-208E(1) there are no adjoining similar
uses. 190-208E(4) – A lack of negative
impacts on existing or potential permitted uses of the district or neighboring
areas, especially on abutting lots.
Rickert noted she did not see any justification for this request
inasmuch as permission was already granted for the erection of townhouses
without the additional 10’ conditional use application. Wilkins seconded the motion stating Rickert
said everything he felt. Bruno asked if
the motion was for the 6 feet that the applicant was really requesting and not
10 feet and Rickert amended her motion to state this. Wilkins seconded. Rickert
stated she has visited site many times and feels very strongly about this. Young
called for a vote which was all yea. Bruno stated that this applicant will be
before the BOS April 26 and applicant asked for any information from this
Commission pertaining to tonight’s meeting.
Bruno stated he will see that they get a copy of information.
COLONIAL BUILDERS - Lawnherst
Ave – Barry Fehnel, Developer and his Engineer Don
Frederickson were present with plans for a minor subdivision. Young asked if they have any questions or
comments on the township engineer’s letter of April 8th. Frederickson stated not on all but questioned
the comment on the trees. He noted it was just brush and Jensen stated
there were some trees in amongst the brush and if they would please check these
trees; maybe clear the brush from around them.
Frederickson asked if they were back by power lines. Jensen and Rizzolino will meet with
Frederickson. Frederickson noted they
have requested waivers along with the reasons.
The first waiver discussed concerned the alignment of the streets and
driveways to intersect directly across from each other. This would be disadvantageous to line up
driveway with Lawnherst Avenue. It could confuse people driving down the
street thinking the roadway continues.
Dillman noted the ordinance suggests lining up the driveways but in this
instance the developer is correct. He
also noted that the proposed way alleviates infiltration makes sense. The second waiver request was regarding the
installation of sidewalks. Rickert
stated she felt the sidewalks should be installed as there are people in the
development that do walk to the shopping center. Frederickson noted there are a lot of storm
sewer, swales, and other utilities that come together here. He
will check into this. Young asked
Dillman where in the planning process do we ask for final grading, he wants to make
sure all plans are covered. This plan
shows grading. This is where it will be
addressed. Frederickson noted the
existing berm had been constructed by shopping center officials to have water
run into Fehnel’s property. Young asked
if there were any further comments or questions. Seeing none he called for a vote. On motion by Rickert, seconded by Grandinetti,
and agreed by all, the Commission voted to recommend conditional approval to
the Board of Supervisors conditioned that all comments by the engineer in their
letter dated April 8, 2005 be satisfied as well as all Departmental comments
and that the waivers for sidewalk be denied as it should be part of plan, but
the waiver for the driveway alignment be approved.
EASTON SELF STORAGE – Preliminary/Final
Plan - Freemansburg Avenue - Mr. Al Marron,
Owner, Don Frederickson, Engineer and Attorney Karl Kline were present with
their plan. Frederickson stated they had
previously met with Jensen, Bruno, Dillman and Paul North from the Pidcock
Company to discuss the Hobson Street
right-of-way situation and how it can be resolved. A portion of the right-of-way on the east side
of street needs to be vacated. The
right-of-way is 60 wide but at the north end it is not a full width. This needs to be forwarded to Board of
Supervisors. The applicant is proposing a 30’ right-of-way
from centerline of cartway that extends from Hobson Street
to the east. Roadway and right-of-way are
not parallel. There was discussion on
the width, cartway, and right-of-way with Hobson
Street. The
roadway is curbed at 30 feet and as wide as 60 feet at the one end. Young asked if they had any issues with the
engineer’s letter. Frederickson noted
their lighting plan was approved by the consultant and there are no other problems
or comments. Dillman questioned the
parking spaces. This has been a
discussion over the past few months. Marron noted the number of employees and
Frederickson stated they are required to have 52/53 spaces. Young asked if someone parks in the parking
lot how do they get access into the building?
Marron noted they have to walk along the front of the building to get to
the door. If they park on Hobson
Street there is a side door that they go
into. They should have access through
building to parking area. Dillman noted
they are to show areas on the plan that are in the building such as
office/mfg. If the parking is striped and lined, there
will only be spaces for 42 cars.
Conditional
Use Request – Frederickson noted they will be installing street trees along Hobson
Street from Division to Oregon Streets. Not all the way down to Freemansburg
Avenue as this would get into the site triangle
problems. The site lighting will have
shielded down fixture to prevent light shining onto neighboring residences. There will not be any off site lighting. Waiver/deferral request were discussed. The improvements along Hobson
Street. The
developer will install curb along property but request a deferral along
property fronting Freemansburg Avenue. There will be right-of-way dedication along Freemansburg
Avenue. Rickert does not feel improvements along Freemansburg
Avenue are necessary, they are more important
along Hobson Street. Young asked if they were going to have any
type of signs on the property. Marron
stated yes one above office and one above the garage. Young feels this should be part of this
approval. Frederickson noted zoned
district LI allows certain signs and the applicant has already made application
for these signs, which area an approval as per ordinance. Rickert feels a lot
of outstanding items to be addressed. Jensen
felt that after tonight’s discussion there is not much that has to be satisfied
on plan.
Motion
by Young, seconded by Grandinetti, and agreed by all, the Commission recommend approval of the Conditional Use
request to the Board of Supervisors
conditioned that the colors discussed are the ones used, the lighting, buffering, and street trees be
completed, and the signage be placed where stated.
Motion
by Young, seconded by Wilkins, and agreed by all, the Commission voted to
recommend approval for the preliminary/final plan to the Board of Supervisors
conditioned that all engineering comments in their letter dated April 8, 2005
be satisfied and all departmental comments of March 7, 2005 also be
satisfied. Also, in regards to the
deferrals the curbing/sidewalks along Freemansburg
Avenue should be approved as well as the street
trees and roadway widening along but the deferral of sidewalk along north end
of Hobson St should not be approved.
NIC
ZAWARSKI & SONS – Preliminary/Final – Charlotte Avenue – Marty Zawarski, Owner/Developer;
James Preston, Attorney and Brian Ritter,
Engineer were present with plans for this office building. Young asked if they had any comments or
problems with the township engineer’s comments and they were reviewed. The waiver/deferral request letter was just
received and will be reviewed by the engineer.
The applicant will get in touch with the zoning officer to have him
review the parking area. Zawarski noted
that a portion of this area is zoned Residential and he didn’t think this
Commission nor the Board of Supervisors would want to see this lot developed as
residential due to the close proximity of Triton, which is adjacent to
property. Jensen asked if there is another
place to access site out of residential area and was told no. Bruno noted this Commission does not
typically give comments on variance issues. Preston stated they
would like to know where they would want the driveway before they appear before
the Zoning Hearing Board. Young noted
there has not been much changed from the last time in was before this
Commission. It was noted that the deadline for this plan
is near and an extension was needed. Preston stated he will
contact Bruno with a 60 day extension. On motion by Rickert, seconded by Grandinetti,
and agreed by all the Commission voted to table action on this plan.
SPRINT
COMMUNICATIONS – Bruno stated Mr. Rizzolino has to sit out on decision making
for this applicant but can have input.
The applicant needs a majority vote tonight on this. Present for the applicant were Attorney Kate Durso,
Scott Chambers, Engineer, Tony DiLorenzo, Sprint Representative. Discussion centered on the
screening/buffering of the property they abut.
The ordinance allows for Board of Supervisors to act on this. The
ordinance requires 4 sides to be screened.
They are requesting to place buffering along their property itself where
it joins the Schaller property only. There
is nothing to shield on the other sides.
Rizzolino owns adjoining property and it is a garden/landscape center
which is zoned PIC. Neighboring properties were notified of all
hearings for this applicant and no one heard anything from them. Wilkins asked Rizzolino as the property owner
if there are any risks of his property being built as residence and he
responded no, that they would not be selling at any time soon, as a matter of
fact they are trying to get the zoning changed.
Schaller’s property can’t see this building and there are landscape
buffer requirements that must be met in ordinance. A Conditional Use request is before this
Commission, and not the Zoning Hearing Board determination. Board of Supervisors makes the final
determination of an application. Dorso
noted they needed 500’ set back and it was approved by the Zoning Hearing
Board. They also received other
variances as stated in their decision letter.
Bruno noted they were before the Zoning Hearing Board on March 16th
and will again be before the Board in May to clarify some of these
conditions. Dorso noted the size of
equipment cabinet is a primary issue.
Other issue is landscape/buffer which the Zoning Hearing Board did make
a decision on. Young asked which
decision stands since the buffering is a Board of Supervisors issue decision. There has been a difference of opinion. Young stated he felt that buffering on all
sides was needed with the exception of the access road; Wilkins agrees. Young asked since they are going to the
Zoning Hearing Board, should we take action?
It was noted the deadline is the end of the month. Usually the Planning Commission does not
take action until variances are received, they received theirs. Bruno
noted they just need clarification on an issue.
Young questioned if this Commission should see design of the tower? Dorso noted the approval of these plans would
be just as what is before this Commission presently, nothing changed. They just need sealed design plans from the
engineer but the site plan will be what is on the plan. Rickert motioned to approve the Conditional
Use request for location of tower as shown on plan submitted and reviewed and
approved by the Zoning Hearing Board and that they received the necessary clarifications
from the Zoning Hearing Board and the issues in the township engineer’s letter
dated April 8, 2005. Wilkins seconded the motion. Approval was 4 yea with Rizzolino abstaining.
COMMERCE
BANK – SKETCH PLAN - PALMER PARK MALL – Park Avenue - Nick
Antanavica of Bolar Engineering, Tim Siegfried, Attorney and John Harter of the
North Atlantic Commerce Bank. The
applicant is proposing a branch bank with 4 drive thrus and feels there is
adequate parking on site as well as several access roadways into bank. Young asked if there were any comments about the
township engineer’s comments and the letter was reviewed. They have an application filed for the
Zoning Hearing Board for several variances.
The applicant noted that they would post the signage around the access
roadways for turns not feasible. Young
asked for any planning issues comments.
Rickert noted it is in the central area of mall, at the main entrance to
mall. Did not feel this was a good
location with the existing traffic. Young
noted further use of the area will make it a very difficult situation to get
around. Commission members agreed
citing traffic, circulation pattern, would be disastrous, and they would be
using prime parking spaces. Rickert
noted it would be much easier at another site, right up the road; another area
was previously approved for a bank. Feels
it is not a place for a branch bank. John Harter did a parking analysis on Friday
evening and Saturday mornings in 4 areas and there were only 50% occupancy of
spaces used. Young noted they should
look at holidays when all the spaces are filled up. Jensen asked if the traffic counts was taken
without Carrabba’s and was told yes. Rickert again stated she felt it is not good
planning for this area. Grandinetti
agrees also. Customers for the bank may
have to walk so far with parking spaces being used up for the mall. Wilkins noted that basically when a person
pulls into mall you have to immediately decide where to go. They
will just go, and not follow signage. The
whole parking area is very busy. Feels
business would be hindered instead of better.
Applicant has Commission’s
feelings on the location of this requested building. Parking lot has all it can handle.
TK
PARTNERS – Sketch Plan – Milford Street
– Keith Turner and Zbigniew Kadziolka
owners of the property were present with plans for a proposed building to
consist of an office area and show room, and living area on second floor. The business that would be in the lower level
would be a roofing/siding business. The area is zoned HI. Township engineer’s comments were reviewed
and Dillman explained that a living area/show room area is not allowed but to
use as warehouse, with inside storage only was an acceptable use as accessory
use. Applicant did not know this would
be an acceptable use and they would like to use it, not necessarily with
apartments, just warehouse. There are
residences in the area and there would be zoning issues as far as commercial
next to residential. This is an ideal
situation for applicant, to be able to use his property as a warehouse
area. Applicant was under the impression
he was not able to use as warehousing. Young
asked if there would be any retail sales.
Applicant said no it would be a showroom for his business, have an area
to have displays for products. There
would be an office with showroom area.
Customers would come into the office and pick out their product they
wanted. There would be some traffic for customers,
not a lot of traffic. They currently have
their business in the Easton area. Lammi noted that he was not in favor of the
apartments above, but just the warehousing/office was a good idea. Business
office is permitted by right. Apartments
would be inconsistent with surrounding businesses. Applicant has Commission’s comments.
Planning
Director comments – Four things – Jensen is holding a presentation of the Two
Rivers Area Greenway Plan to be given by the Bushkill Streams Conservancy on May
2 in the Township Building. Two members of the Planning Commission need
to attend. Everyone please check their
schedules and get back to me. This
presentation includes portion of Palmer
Township and we should consider this
for adoption. This meeting will consist
of two members of each of the following Boards – Planning Commission, Recreation
Board and Board of Supervisors. Two courses available thru LVPC – access
management course on April 22 and Basic Course in Subdivision Review. Anyone interested, let Jensen know.
LVPC
is now requiring traffic impact study for each plan if it is a requirement of
the municipality presently.
Young
discussed highlights of tonight’s meeting.
On
motion by Rickert, seconded by Wilkins, and agreed by all, the meeting was
adjourned at 11:00 P.M.
Diane
Grube, Corr. Sec.